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TOPIC: Why can't Kentucky be Good at Both
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Why can't Kentucky be Good at Both - 5 Months, 3 Weeks ago
Sun, Nov 27, 2011 2:11pm
 
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First off congrats to the team for ending the streak yesterday.

But that is as positive as this post will be. I am unimpressed by the streak being ended yesterday. It is my feeling that streaks like this should not even exist. Why can't Kentucky be an Alabama, LSU, or a Florida?

I don't understand why we can't lure an Urban Meyer or a big time head coach hear to lead this program to greatness. I understand that at Kentucky basketball seems to be all that is important but why not football as well?

What is going on with this program?
 
 
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Re: Why can't Kentucky be Good at Both - 5 Months, 3 Weeks ago
Sun, Nov 27, 2011 5:29pm
 
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JarridCambron wrote:

I don't understand why we can't lure an Urban Meyer or a big time head coach hear to lead this program to greatness. I understand that at Kentucky basketball seems to be all that is important but why not football as well?


I've been thinking the same thing, if he left UF for stress reasons surely OSU would be as much or more stress than UF. If he wants to get into coaching I can't think of a lower stress job than one where 6 or 7 wins and a bowl game is a nice season, not mention hiding in the shadow of Cal and the basketball program. It'll never happen but it sure makes more sense than OSU to me.
 
 
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Re: Why can't Kentucky be Good at Both - 5 Months, 3 Weeks ago
Sun, Nov 27, 2011 6:07pm
 
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Why would Urban Meyer choose UK over Ohio State? Why would any big time coach come to UK to coach a bottom feeder in the nation's toughest conference?

What does Alabama, LSU, and Florida have that we dont?....football tradition

Do you think a big time coach will be able to lure top recruits away from Alabama, LSU, Florida, Auburn, Georgia, South Carolina, or Arkansas?
 
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Re: Why can't Kentucky be Good at Both - 5 Months, 3 Weeks ago
Sun, Nov 27, 2011 7:46pm
 
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carlos marcellus wrote:
Why would Urban Meyer choose UK over Ohio State? Why would any big time coach come to UK to coach a bottom feeder in the nation's toughest conference?

What does Alabama, LSU, and Florida have that we dont?....football tradition

Do you think a big time coach will be able to lure top recruits away from Alabama, LSU, Florida, Auburn, Georgia, South Carolina, or Arkansas?


If you fix the program, there's no reason it can't be a winner. Your view is extremely small minded.....

Kentucky has the biggest name AND the biggest coach in all of collegiate sports in basketball. They rake it in....reason being: NOT tradition. Not a single one of those kids have mentioned UK's tradition in their choice. They come because the program is great at getting them to the next level. UK gets the program correct so they can get coaches in who can do that, then tradition won't mean squat.
 
 
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Re: Why can't Kentucky be Good at Both - 5 Months, 3 Weeks ago
Mon, Nov 28, 2011 3:15am
 
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Its all about the coach in todays game bottom line in both football and basketball. Programs with no tradition can have a winner and programs with great tradition can have a loser, probably not for long either way but it can be had for short periods of time. If we're patient Joker could turn into that coach. We all know he's a great offensive mind. Now that we have a really good DC that could turn to be great for this program we need just need to be patient. See how things shake out next year. If its not good then maybe a chance can be made and we can get serious about a big time coach. If its good then its good and we've got a coach that can lead us to bigger and better things.
 
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Re: Why can't Kentucky be Good at Both - 5 Months, 3 Weeks ago
Mon, Nov 28, 2011 6:04am
 
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you are certainly entitled to your opinion and I am entitled to mine.

unlike you, I dont claim to have all the answers.

my reply was a series of questions minus my blue colored glasses


lastly, its ridiculous, and completely false for you to say that "not a single one of those kids(UK bball recruits) have mentioned UK's tradition in their choice"
 
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Re: Why can't Kentucky be Good at Both - 5 Months, 3 Weeks ago
Mon, Nov 28, 2011 6:24am
 
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carlos marcellus wrote:
you are certainly entitled to your opinion and I am entitled to mine.

unlike you, I dont claim to have all the answers.

my reply was a series of questions minus my blue colored glasses


lastly, its ridiculous, and completely false for you to say that "not a single one of those kids(UK bball recruits) have mentioned UK's tradition in their choice"


Its still about the coach. I used to feel similar to you but over time I've learned its just not the case. UK's tradition is like an add on to the top players. It isn't at the top of their decision making at all.
 
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Re: Why can't Kentucky be Good at Both - 5 Months, 3 Weeks ago
Mon, Nov 28, 2011 10:01am
 
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Ty Whitler wrote:
Its still about the coach. I used to feel similar to you but over time I've learned its just not the case. UK's tradition is like an add on to the top players. It isn't at the top of their decision making at all.

Yep. Nowhere near #1 or even #10 on their list of priorities. If Cal were at Possum Trot Polytec, recruits would flood the place. And who is this nutjob that thinks I don't know everything. That guy won't make it. Plus, his name is Carlos after my least favorite comedian ever.

Yep, I hate him.
 
 
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Re: Why can't Kentucky be Good at Both - 5 Months, 3 Weeks ago
Mon, Nov 28, 2011 8:52pm
 
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Think about this, Cal was able to recruit Dajuan Wagner, Derrick Rose, and Tyreke Evans to MEMPHIS, which is in Conference USA. Memphis had some success in the 1980s, but was wiped out by scandal. Comparing tradition though, its not even close.

Tradition means very little to players coming from outside the Bluegrass. It means more to coaches than anything.
 
 
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Re: Why can't Kentucky be Good at Both - 5 Months, 3 Weeks ago
Mon, Nov 28, 2011 9:21pm
 
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I think one reason that keeps getting tossed out there is that the administration/institution wouldn't make a commitment to that big name coach. Sure, they could throw salary money out there, but that's just one aspect. Putting a money commitment into the program is where UK seems to be way behind....recruiting/facilities/etc.
 
 
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